Showing posts with label Joe Biden. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Biden. Show all posts

Friday, October 3, 2008

Fellow Blogger: How Biden Won the Debate


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Debate Analysis: Why Biden Won





Sarah Palin did what I and many others thought she would do — she easily beat the extremely low expectations many had set for her. She did not have a meltdown. She did not faint or run off the stage. She only sometimes acted like Tina Fey's impersonation of her. 

Palin looked right into the camera, only bizarrely winking a few times. She stuck to her script, only straying, rambling, or talking nonsense a few times. She attacked Barack Obama and Joe Biden's records, though could not defend John McCain's. She answered the questions she wanted to answer, not the ones that were asked. She attacked the media. She had obviously done her homework and studied very, very hard. I applaud her for that.

But Joe Biden was amazing, probably giving the performance of his life, way better than I had imagined. And Sarah Palin was utterly out of her league on every level. 

Before (or if) I get into all the ways Joe Biden defeated Sarah Palin in their first and only debate, I need to talk about one moment first. And that was when Joe Biden choked up when talking about being a single parent and worrying about the lives of his kids. I haven't watched many debates in my life, but this moment was one of the most powerful I've seen in one. 

Most bloggers/commentators/pundits/etc. (including ones I respect and many I don't) have said that the debate lacked fireworks or big moments. I disagree.

In less than two minutes, Joe Biden not only spoke about himself, his career as a politician, his childhood, and why he understands the struggles of working people. He also spoke about the values of himself and his party (that government can help when guided by the right values and leadership), and ended it with what is both the central theme of the Obama/Biden campaign and a devastating indictment of John McCain and his party's philosophy — Americans need change, not more of the same. 

And, most amazingly, Joe Biden spoke from the perspective of a single father, a group one has probably never heard about in any presidential debate and rarely hears about in politics or anywhere else. One of Palin's (and the Republicans') strengths is their identification as protectors of the family and "family values". But Biden would not cede this ground, and neither he, nor the Democrats, should ever have to. Joe Biden is a father, a husband, and widower who has lost a child, raised two on his own, and now, thanks to Bush's war, will have to wonder again if one of his sons might die. Don't tell him that he doesn't know about families and their values.

In many ways, it clearly crystalized what this election, the candidates, and this country, in the midst of such difficult times, is all about in a way that powerful and grand while personal and intimate. I think that qualifies as a big moment.

As Leah McElrath wrote at Huffpo:

Joe Biden did more for the equality of the sexes with his honest display of paternal emotion during the vice presidential debate than Sarah Palin's presence on the executive ticket has or will ever do.

It feels funny — my post after the first presidential debate focused mostly on the body language and behavior of John McCain and Barack Obama, and how McCain came across as a total jerk. And now I'm writing about the vice-presidential debate's most touching moment. But it's hard to ignore what hits you on an emotional level, which is, for better or for worse, where political battles are fought.

And to those who would say that I'm not focusing enough on the policies and hard numbers, I say this:

Policy is important. But dammit, I'm not made of stone. 

Below is the transcript of what Biden said:

And, by the way, a record of change -- I will place my record and Barack's record against John McCain's or anyone else in terms of fundamental accomplishments. Wrote the crime bill, put 100,000 cops on the street, wrote the Violence Against Women Act, which John McCain voted against both of them, was the catalyst to change the circumstance in Bosnia, led by President Clinton, obviously.

Look, I understand what it's like to be a single parent. When my wife and daughter died and my two sons were gravely injured, I understand what it's like as a parent to wonder what it's like if your kid's going to make it.

I understand what it's like to sit around the kitchen table with a father who says, "I've got to leave, champ, because there's no jobs here. I got to head down to Wilmington. And when we get enough money, honey, we'll bring you down."

I understand what it's like. I'm much better off than almost all Americans now. I get a good salary with the United States Senate. I live in a beautiful house that's my total investment that I have. So I -- I am much better off now.

But the notion that somehow, because I'm a man, I don't know what it's like to raise two kids alone, I don't know what it's like to have a child you're not sure is going to -- is going to make it -- I understand.

I understand, as well as, with all due respect, the governor or anybody else, what it's like for those people sitting around that kitchen table. And guess what? They're looking for help. They're looking for help. They're not looking for more of the same.

 

This video is also available onYouTube.

10 COMMENTS
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Anonymous commented about 5 hours ago:

sad how palin tried to lecture biden about 'not 

looking to the past' when she kept bringing up 

her past experience in alaska. full of contradictions. 

on one hand, palin can bring up the past experience 

of both herself and mccain - but biden, just don't

talk about the bush administration and its past? 

one cannot have it both ways, another reason 

why biden won this debate. palin was just a good 

sounding board...

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A World Citizen commented about 6 hours ago:

Thought Biden spoke very well, he knew his stuff 

thats for sure. If you're looking for a VP with 

depth he'd be the person for the job. 
Many people i've spoken to (Australia) thought 

he came over very well and as an intelligent 

compassionate and gentle person. 
I thought Palin did well considering her inexperience,

indeed she was quite slick and behaved a lot better 

than McCain did in his debate; but she failed to answer questions and did resort to soundbites. Her 

constant appeals to 'soccer moms' or whatever 

you call them, were pretty blatant .." well ya know, 

thats the difference between how you washington 

types do things ..." 
To think that if McCain fell off his perch in the 

near future she would be President is SCARY and 

a bit too much like the plot of a TV program for 

my liking. 
But hey, its not like its a Presidential Election , 

its a popularity contest isn't it ? Kinda like Big 

Brother 

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Anonymous commented about 7 hours ago:

look - it's o'toole-fuckface!

no one is paying attention to you as you've 

shown how ignorant and uncouth you are. 

speaking of mothers, i just got off yours so 

you should show a little more respect!

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Otis Toole commented about 7 hours ago:

I am hoping YOU wake up after taking your 

head out of your mother's ass and you wipe 

the shit off before you go out to collect your 

food stamps.

And try to get that SHIFT key working, so your 

CAPS are appropriately placed at the beginning 

of your retarded sentences.

Cheers and a big fuck you.

Yer pal,

Otis

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Anonymous commented about 8 hours ago:

i am hoping you wake up after bumping your 

big head into the wall thinking for once that 

Mcbush/Palin would be sworn in! that ain't 

happening even on a cold day in hell. have 

you seen the polls lately? maybe you're one of 

those backwood rednecks who have NO television 

to keep up on the latest news. maybe.

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Gloria commented about 8 hours ago:

I am hoping you will put this back up after 

McCain/Palin are sworn in. It is entertaining to 

read what you post to entertain yourselves.

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Craig Sipple commented about 8 hours ago:

You are an interesting people America. If a 

politician started to bubble up over here (U.K) 

he/she could kiss thier career goodby. Same if 

they even mentioned god.

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renazantz commented about 10 hours ago:

I used to scream at the TV and the Radio when I 

heard Bush speaking. Then in the last few years, 

I learned about Thom and other progressive radio personalities. Before then I had thought I was going 

crazy thinking "how and why is bush getting away 

with this?" Now I turn off the sound when I know 

Bush will speak. Well last night as I listed to Palin, 

I got that horrible screaming feeling again!!! AAAAUUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!! Then I just started 

laughing at her. I got great comfort in hearing 

Biden talk!!

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goodgirlroxie commented about 13 hours ago:

Joe Biden debated. Sarah Palin performed a TV 

commercial with talking points.

Sadly, many, many American voters have been 

dumbed down, by TV, to the point where they 

can't make this distinction.

At the debate party I attended last night, we 

counted four of Palin's weird winks. They're a 

former beauty pageant's nervous tic.

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Kanuk25 commented about 13 hours ago:

There was NO debate. Plain Palin did not debate. 

She ACTED. She acted on scripted words. When 

she got through many of her off-topic rants, she 

pursed her lips into a squeeze that said: Whew! 

I got through that one!

Thursday, October 2, 2008

Obama IS America! Editorial Opinion: Sarah Palin and the VP Debates






While the video above may be pretty funny, it is exactly the attitude toward education that needs to change. The value of your education or the job you do is not only measured by the money that you make. That is actually only a small part of it. It is how you develop your mind and how your mind impacts how you understand and interact with the world around you.

The attitude portrayed in the video above seems to be the same one that has been driving Sarah Palin forward through her political career--that all you need is sound bites instead of a deep and complete understanding of any given issue, and if you can have a big smile on your face and make it look like you know what you are talking about when you drop in certain key terms or concepts (such as reform, education, healthcare, or success in war), people will believe you.

Here is part of the debates that went on tonight:




There are so many things to comment on about tonight's debate, but for right now, we will present an idea for thought that you are welcome to comment on.


NOTE: Click on the blog title to be connected to CNN's website where you can watch the debates online




It seems that Sarah Palin has about 7 main ideas that she recycles over and over again as answers for many of the questions she is asked in interviews and during this debate, regardless of whether or not they answer the actual question she is being asked. That is to say that she keeps saying the same few things over and over again. It doesnt matter what the actual question being asked is. This is an excellent strategy to avoid answering questions you don't want to answer or don't know the answer to, while still making yourself look good.
Key points she recycles:

- We cannot surrender or admit defeat (even though this war, just like Vietnam, is not a war where winning or losing will ever be clear cut)

- We need to reform those Washington politics

- As governor of Alaska she understands energy issues. We need to drill, baby, drill...and invest in some alternative energy technologies

- We need to cut taxes for the American people, cut earmark spending, get rid of those 'corrupt guys on Wall Street'

- We need to support our troops

- 'Well, it's only been about five weeks that I've been on the campaign, so you can't expect me to know everything, but my executive experience of the great, large state that is Alaska (population of about *670,000* people), and as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, I feel that I have enough experience to be Vice President and possibly President of the United States of America.'

(The above is not an actual quote.)

- When in doubt, defer to the fact that you agree with John McCain


It's not that any of these things are necessarily bad philosophies, or that they would be bad answers if they were responses to questions asking about success in war, or political reform, or investment in energy. The problem is:
  • If you don't really know how to answer a question about the war or about what to do about a particular foreign or domestic policy situation,
  • If you don't understand economics, but want to show the American people that you know how to restore the strength of the US economy,
  • You want to avoid answering a question because you have no clue how to answer or you want to hide your answer
  • You still want to win votes and come off as competent,
Then:
  • You have to keep using key terms, phrases, sentences and ideas that can make you at least seem like you know what you are talking about to people who may not have the best understanding of economics, US economic history and policy, what foreign policy and domestic policy consist of, how government runs, why it is important to the functioning of government that the people themselves understand what is going on, etc etc. The constant usage of key terms can boost your credibility and popularity amongst the people, even if what you are saying does not fully make sense.

What this says about the American people is basically that:

It is further proof that our educational system is a complete failure. The majority of the US population does not attain an education past high school.


So, 

if people are supposed to learn about economics, policy-making, how government functions, why there is high immigration, how to take good care of the environment--about all these issues that are being discussed in this election within our educational system

and

most people do not learn about these issues because our educational system sucks, or they forget about these issues (as discussed in the first video posted on on this blog),

then

it makes sense that people will interpret a whole bunch of key terms strung together in a sentence or in a speech as a reflection of someone's knowledge on an issue--regardless of whether or not that sentence/speech makes any logical sense


This is dangerous. This is what went wrong with George Bush. We cannot do this again. Our lives, our futures, our success, our economy, the healing of our political system, of our planet, and the wellbeing of us and of the other people on this planet is all on the line in this election.

Also, let it be known that **The Palins Support Alaska becoming its own country** separate from the United States.

Even though it was her husband that was a part of it and not her, family is important to analyze, because they are the ones closest to you.  A good relationship is built on certain things in common.  Beliefs, morals, and one's priorities are important things to have in common for you to build a trusting and empowering relationship with someone.

Therefore it is quite interesting that someone so close to Sarah Palin--her husband--supports this measure.  Sarah Palin herself has been friendly with the Alaska Independence Movement and even gave an introductory speech at one of their conventions.  It appears to me that she is pretty removed from the issues facing us here in mainland.


Final contribution to this post is the video below. It provides some striking insights into why the prospect of Sarah Palin as Vice President and possibly as President is dangerous to the interests of this country. It is entitled Why Do People Laugh at Creationists?:







Thanks for tuning in!!!